[20:00:09] Hello all, my name is George Rideout the host of Sacred Space, a radio show, on www.umfm.com [20:00:14] * Darvid has joined #magi [20:00:33] * Legon is now known as Legon|tv [20:00:43] aha =) [20:00:47] * Rauni has joined #magi [20:00:53] hello Darvid =) [20:00:53] where we talk of many thing Spiritual [20:01:11] * kitano has joined #magi [20:01:11] hi omega1:-) [20:01:16] * sondag has joined #magi [20:01:21] * eesza has joined #magi [20:01:43] I've been studing Shamanism for about 17 years, traveling with many different Medicine Peoples [20:02:16] * Melle changes topic to 'Paranormala fenomen och liknande | Idag är det Onsdagschat med George från Kanada. George har lång erfarenhet av shamanism och har dessutom ett eget Internetradioprogram som behandlar andlighet. Klockan 20 startar vi. Georges nick på chatten är GW |' [20:02:40] what do you think about castaneda? [20:02:47] Hi, GW and everyone ( : [20:02:54] snart har jag fattat... ;-) [20:03:01] * esrange sets mode: +t [20:03:06] Hello :o) [20:03:24] hello everyone [20:03:24] GW how did you came in contact whit shamanism? [20:03:44] good question [20:04:00] what do you think about castaneda? [20:04:07] i have always felt the need, since I was a small boy [20:04:09] * Jyrkas has joined #magi [20:04:12] aha [20:04:23] ahhh you know of Carlos.... :o) [20:04:35] absolutely [20:04:41] Where is this shaman guy? [20:04:48] where did you grow up GW? [20:04:51] GW are you a shaman youself to? [20:04:52] I think he says some good things....... [20:05:12] okay [20:05:16] do you think he is authentic? [20:05:37] * Smurf is now known as Smurf|dod [20:05:53] some people call me a Shaman, but you have to know that everyone who calls themselves a Shaman isnt and there are some who dont call themslves one and they are [20:06:19] he never called himself a shaman [20:06:35] God answer GW. Im apriestess my self some people says. [20:06:35] Well, that sounds real good.. Can u do anything with magic? or havn't tryed? [20:06:40] he said it was an anthropologic definition [20:06:45] i think Carlos if he wasnt one knew people who were [20:06:55] i don't know about carlos [20:07:10] ...and yes I can.... [20:07:15] have you read his books? [20:07:22] mike77 read the book Shamansk healing [20:07:23] yes I have.... [20:07:26] ok [20:07:33] GW, so u can? Alright.. Can u name some of the spells? [20:07:34] i have a question then [20:07:41] sure [20:07:44] GW:do you have dreams which prepares you on things that will/can happen or which leads you into right path? [20:07:49] ok...hold your questions for awhile so GW has time to answer [20:07:51] for me and thoese who dont know so much about shamanism what is it all about in short meaning? GW [20:07:57] the thing he refers to as voladores [20:08:23] do you know of anything that is similar [20:08:42] I dont practice what Carlos does, he has learned from Medicine People from down South, I have learned from more Northern Ones [20:09:05] there are differences [20:09:17] and many styes [20:09:17] different languges say the same things [20:09:17] like what? [20:09:33] * Delvo|halvt is now known as Delvoriah [20:09:37] Gw, can u tell me anything that u can do? Like, healing or destructive magic? [20:09:51] * PrinceSsa has quit IRC (Quit: Client Exiting) [20:09:59] Is ther a special name for shamans in Canada. In north of Sweden they calls Nåjd [20:10:02] this is not a freak show people [20:10:08] GW What do you know about astralprojection stuff? [20:10:14] * SpLiTzEn has joined #magi [20:10:19] * Nettie has joined #magi [20:10:20] * LC has joined #magi [20:10:31] Much Healing.....protection......some claravoiance....OOBE's...Lucid Dreaming [20:10:38] GW and herbaldrugs do the shamans use that? [20:10:49] hejsan ! någon som kan lite om magi ? // malin [20:10:50] alright man [20:10:54] do you think there are some beings that feed on human awareness [20:10:58] and different herbs [20:11:02] so you can acually cure a disease? [20:11:19] malin, fråga GW på engelska [20:11:22] I have taken part in many differnet healings..... [20:11:48] Nothing destructive then? [20:11:58] we call them Shamans...Medicine People...Healers [20:11:59] kan du något om magi ? [20:12:09] Have some of the healings been more intim some how. I just have to now? [20:12:22] nothing destructive.....although, the possability is thee [20:12:22] Malin, inte jag! men fråga GW , på engelska.... han e från Kanada [20:12:37] GW In what level do shamans follow myths and old ledgens in their lerningprocess and is it vital in the understanding of the spiritworld [20:12:38] GW, waah! that sounds nice.... [20:12:53] Rauni...?? [20:13:09] GW do the shamans/you use herbaldrugs ? [20:13:10] Rauni, i dont think he's healing with his dick... [20:13:11] do you think that other dimensions have the same jungle law characteristics as this one? [20:13:25] Take it easy folks, please. George has only one brain and a pair of hand to answer your questions :-) [20:13:32] Jyrkas Why not? [20:13:36] Yes....many different kinds of herbs [20:14:10] GW:How about the dreams? [20:14:11] va ?? [20:14:21] Rauni , ehh? Okay.. go to a club and drink some alcohol and say that u can heal disease's with ya dick.. Send me a mail on how many people that wanned ya help? [20:14:22] GW isnt it dangerus to use drugs? [20:14:31] Inte så många frågor på en gång ber han, Snälla ! [20:14:41] någon som vill prata om magi på SVENSKA MED MIG ? [20:14:55] Inga fler frågor på en stund nu!!! [20:15:06] splitzen. inte idag. idag gäller engelska. *tyst* [20:15:11] dreams??......what kind of "drugs".....there is a difference between drugs and 'medicines' [20:15:21] Malin, engelskan.. Vi e här för att gråa ut GW [20:15:30] Jyrkas. I have no dick but thankyou for your advise [20:15:44] Men jag använder ingen färg... [20:15:51] * angelcry has joined #magi [20:16:03] i have read that the shaman people use mushroom drugs to travel to outher dimensions? [20:16:10] is there a line, beyond which you call something a drug and not a medicine? and who draws that line [20:16:16] and outher things [20:16:18] 4En fråga i taget till GW vore ytterst hjälpsamt.. [20:16:22] Rauni ... Okay, but do you as a woman think that sexuall interferance will heal? In that case, call me if u get sick! [20:17:06] Maybe i will Jyrkas [20:17:09] Melle, sorry but u accused me for using paint?! damn.. in swedish also...... what could i do? [20:17:15] yes...i guess everything can be misused, but if used in the right way, medicines can be very helpful [20:17:31] GW:yes,dreams,maybe you missed my question earlier...I wondered if you had dreams which led you into thr right path,so to speak, or to inform you about something particular? [20:17:55] * Legon|tv is now known as Le|gone * Group(s) enabled [20:18:04] what kind of stuff du you use and other shamans to get into the astral! [20:18:12] Madex......yes.....dreams are very important....and have been along my path from day one [20:18:21] aha [20:18:27] * Jagged has joined #magi [20:18:43] * Balder_Odinsson has joined #magi [20:18:51] Rauni , can we talk about this somewhere else also? maybe over msn / icq? my icq is 72210978 and msn is xenon_mj@hotmail.com add me! [20:19:06] mystiq.......i use my heart and my mind and together in balance we travel [20:19:08] GW:but how do you know when your dream is one of those or just an "ordinary" dream? [20:19:10] Operators, i'm trying to evade an chat here, so dont ban me! [20:19:24] madax...yes...there is a 'knowing' [20:19:47] do you feel it? [20:19:57] Is drum musik a good way to travel? [20:20:02] yes.....and it can get in the way sometimes [20:20:20] ? [20:20:28] Melle, how do i do that? can u transfer me there? also! i still wanna read Georges stuff [20:20:29] yes....drumming works very well [20:20:36] Jyrkas maybe we can diskuss this another time? [20:21:04] it doesn´´t if you cant relax [20:21:08] there is great 'power' in drumming [20:21:30] cant find any musik whit only that drumming [20:21:30] songs have much energy in them [20:21:31] can ordinary music work too? [20:21:40] musik cds and so [20:21:45] * angelcry has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:21:55] anything that helps you along your way will work [20:21:56] GW I see these flying tiny "dots" in the air, they float or fly in oval/circle shaped formations and are about 50% red and 50% blue mixed in the same group. Someone once told me that it is common among shamans to see energy like this, is that true or something you know more about? [20:22:02] ok =) [20:22:14] Techno music maybe.... :o) [20:22:47] What music kind can you say is the best...? to travel [20:22:51] Nettie.......yes......do you se anything else? [20:22:53] anything but that rap-crap my neighbour keeps playing ;-) [20:22:53] Nettie, i can answer that for ya.. Stop chewing drugs.. [20:23:17] * SpLiTzEn has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:23:18] I have participated in some drum travel... It´s really powerfull [20:23:21] I'm not taking any drugs! And I've seen these from the age of 4...what were my parents feeding me?! *lol* ;o) [20:23:35] * Nifelheim|vilar is now known as Nifelheim [20:23:44] As an ex.DJ I know there is a lot of energy transposed by music [20:23:57] Nettie, okay.. That sounds odd... [20:24:00] Darvid....yes there certainly is... [20:24:09] I am somebody [20:24:15] * Nifelheim has quit IRC (Quit: ) [20:24:22] I seek some Guided drumtrip music which one should i pick???? [20:24:33] so it is all about energy? =) [20:24:50] i can see those blue and red dots when i close my eyes.... [20:25:01] : ) [20:25:21] Can i keep my holy Lhaza in the freezer George? ;) [20:25:23] i can see a black wall when i close my eyes, is that paranormal? [20:25:24] and some pictures with the colors of the first 3 chakras [20:25:32] GW Well sometimes I see white dots too but usually the red/blue ones. And sometimes "sparkling" dots. [20:25:35] I want to keep it cool [20:26:05] i often see energy from persons ... like dots moving. [20:26:10] GW can you se the aura to? [20:26:12] * ChanServ sets mode: +o Delvoriah [20:26:15] * mm33 was kicked by Delvoriah (seriöst!) [20:26:32] Jyrkas: Will you please stop with trying humiliate the people here? [20:26:39] Nettie.....there can be many different 'signs' to let us know there is a 'veil' that we can see behind [20:26:48] madex, sorry.. Not my attension.... [20:26:52] * mm33 has joined #magi [20:27:07] Rauni...i used to draw peoples auras.... [20:27:23] i paint them..hehe [20:27:23] I used to draw their minds [20:27:34] Intresting [20:27:47] what is a veil? [20:27:48] GW Do you see dots like the ones I described? [20:27:52] slöja [20:27:56] ok [20:27:56] GW , can u wake dead things to life ? [20:28:03] But they all looked so shallow by my reflection [20:28:20] Hold your questions now! [20:28:21] Nettie....i have seen discuss shaped objects..... [20:28:32] mike77 en vägg som man ser bakom typ blockering mena han [20:28:36] come on jyrkas.the dead ones are not really dead..they just don`t have a body [20:29:02] So i started paint the world they was living in [20:29:03] If he could do that, i was thinking.. that i might could send my barbara to canada? [20:29:31] * Callan has joined #magi [20:29:36] sluta dumma dig [20:29:37] can it them be possible in the future to wake peole up from the past? if you can possess them with a body? =) [20:29:55] sorry :) just had to... I shall be serious from nowon! [20:30:38] But i saw my picture was flawed [20:30:40] The Canadian shaman are they all healers ore can they also tell the future [20:30:59] * LC is now known as LC|ropa_so_kommer_jag [20:31:04] * Aftonfe is now known as Aftonfe_away [20:31:06] do you believe that some others afterlife energys can attach to a persons aura? or a persons energy? [20:31:08] Rauni, i can tell some future... hmm *i see a big ban coming faster and faster* [20:31:11] Rauni.......some can do both...everyone has their own 'way' [20:31:32] Madam....yes...deff [20:31:34] GW, nice talking to you.. i will get banned soon.. Keep doing this, its cool! [20:31:35] Okey [20:32:04] Jyrkas......keep the energy alive.....be well [20:32:07] Jyrkas, what is a big ban? [20:32:11] Thanks! [20:32:15] do you know how to remove this energy in a easy way? [20:32:41] I know how to leave you all in confusion [20:32:42] GW:can you tell ?why can certain people do the ouijaboard and other not? [20:32:43] Rauni, a big ban is... That the operators take there foot up my ass... and then kick, and shut the doors [20:32:43] * Pablito has joined #magi [20:32:46] madam....one never knows if it can be 'easy' or not, until its done [20:32:52] Just watch me now [20:32:54] GW: I have read a book called "Shaman, healer, sage" by Alberto Villoldo. Have you read it? And if so, do you think he explains it in a good way? [20:32:56] on [20:32:59] 1 [20:33:00] zecina [20:33:01] 2 [20:33:04] 3 [20:33:05] * mm33 was kicked by Delvoriah (seriöst!) [20:33:07] * Jyrkas was kicked by Smurf|dod (come back after the chat if you please... (Op-controle)) [20:33:33] * Bengtsson has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:33:33] Do you like carlos Castaneda [20:33:34] I have read that book too [20:34:12] Carlos has many good things to say [20:34:14] which book? [20:34:16] GW What do you think about "Robert Bruce" ? [20:34:17] I have read the book too [20:34:23] * Bengtsson has joined #magi [20:34:30] * Bengtsson has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:34:57] is there some other way to contact you, i have so many quetions and this is not the right place. I've read a lot about it, enough to know that only experiencing things counts, I've been trying to find a shaman for a long time, but only came across people that couldn't give me anything [20:34:58] I s it something bad about castaneda [20:34:58] * Melle is now known as Melle|brb [20:35:16] * Smurf|dod is now known as smurf [20:35:18] Pablito Why? [20:35:26] Hello GW..ok....death.....and then? [20:35:29] do you have a website? [20:35:30] ?? [20:35:58] eesza...yes....Mariposa can give you my email add [20:36:02] ( : Sorry about my spelling [20:36:11] What do you mean Rauni? [20:36:42] Pablito....some think that giving certain 'ways' to the public can be damaging [20:36:45] infinte thankyous [20:36:49] * Callan has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:36:57] Why do you think its something bad about castaneda? Pablito [20:37:30] Can you explain that Gw? [20:37:43] people read his books and then think they are practicing 'shamans' and can end up hurting themselves or others [20:38:12] I don´t thin is something bad abot Castaneda [20:38:24] I see Gw [20:38:30] is it possible to get in spiritual contact with every soul? [20:38:42] mike....if they want you to [20:38:54] * Melle|brb is now known as Melle [20:38:56] GW: are you talking about not being balanced, the innerself with the outerself, before practing 'things' [20:39:06] ok =) what should i do to make them want to? [20:39:28] GW: Do you know why some people can use the ouijaboard and other can NOT?one of my friends asked me and I really don`know why [20:39:30] Is it true that he ( Castaneda ) says Gw? [20:39:45] mike...you cant make them do anything...you can ask, they will either answer or they wont [20:39:52] Integrity is very important! You don't make people want things! [20:39:57] thank you [20:40:25] i meant what way to get into contact =P [20:40:26] * madex has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:40:30] * madex2 has joined #magi [20:40:47] -- [20:40:56] Madax.....do you know why some people run and others walk?....different strokes for different folks [20:41:07] ha ha [20:41:11] hehehe [20:41:11] ( : [20:41:47] * madex has joined #magi [20:41:54] .. [20:42:01] * madex2 has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:42:08] does some Castaneda club existing in Sweden? [20:42:29] or similar [20:42:41] GW: so, do you have any tips that make those who are interested more spiritual sensitive? [20:42:46] Pablito...yes...there are many different clubs on Carlos...what they are I dont know.... [20:42:49] * Balder_Odinsson has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:43:04] * mystiq has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:43:19] * Balder_Odinsson has joined #magi [20:43:50] Delvoriah....get to know Ones-Self is the most important [20:44:30] But Gw. can you tell me yor opinion about Castaneda books? Are you agree or.........? [20:44:30] GW: like the oracle in Delfi said; Know your self, and you will know the universe [20:44:45] exactyly!! ;o) [20:44:57] GW: you said before that you have had a near death experience...do you care to tell us about that? [20:45:05] oh, thats easy ;) [20:45:19] Pablito......i agree with some of what he says and disagree with some stuff that he says [20:45:22] * SfIsHeR has joined #magi [20:45:51] its a little tricky, im never the same person as i was ytesterday.. heh... [20:45:53] what are you disagree? [20:46:25] Pablito.....that deserves a talk all on its own [20:46:54] but... you can say something [20:47:37] or maybe it is toomuch.. [20:47:44] /msg Mariposa Jag måste sluta nu...ska till mamma men har tänkt gå in där för att höra vidare...... 4[20:47:49] Skugga354 behöver nog hjälp i #kapprummet! [20:47:52] Melle....that may be a bit difficult to write about....there was so much that could not be put into words.....sometimes the moment you try to put the experience into words you lose it 4[20:47:57] Skugga003 behöver nog hjälp i #kapprummet! 4Scriptet har slutat reagera på allt #kapprummet som sägs av skuggor. [20:48:28] Maybe we ought to now move on to another subject to do with Shamanism than 'Castaneda', as I think there could be several other people of the the 32 in at the moment, that want to ask a question. :-) [20:48:28] GW: I understand....but was it a nice experience? [20:48:29] hehe... i wonser why is that? =) [20:48:33] wonder [20:48:50] Melle...it was the most peaceful experience I have ever had [20:49:23] it was a profound peace that i have never been close to expeiencing again [20:49:32] GW: did it feel like meeting God? [20:49:52] 'God' was everywhere [20:49:56] * Monka has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:50:24] * Rauni has quit IRC (Ping timeout) [20:51:03] GW: did you experience the "look back at your life"? [20:51:24] near death expirence has nothing to do with shamanism, I think [20:51:25] melle.....no..... [20:51:42] Pablito...actually it does..... [20:51:57] explain [20:52:11] although i dont recommend it....lol [20:52:22] hehe.... [20:52:37] * Rauni has joined #magi [20:52:38] =) [20:52:44] dont try this at home [20:52:45] it 'showed' me many things..... [20:52:56] as..... [20:53:26] what can you say that can do it justice....explain to me the color red [20:53:39] haha [20:53:41] * madam_mim has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:53:55] you are right [20:54:02] = 0 [20:54:23] * majka has joined #magi [20:54:23] GW: did you feel like you understood everything? [20:54:38] suffice it tosay it was a great teacher.....and yes Melle [20:54:46] i think that you must meet god honestly, you cannot cheat, right? [20:54:49] Perhaps, could you say it gave you a differant prespective on what life is realy about [20:54:53] * LUSTMORD has joined #magi [20:55:08] * Jenkan_86 has joined #magi [20:55:11] Mike....thats right..... [20:55:20] :oD [20:55:21] * Balder_Odinsson has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:55:33] * Balder_Odinsson has joined #magi [20:55:33] * Balder_Odinsson has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:55:34] * Balder_Odinsson has joined #magi [20:55:56] Darvid...yes...for sure [20:55:57] gw, do you believe in God? [20:56:06] * silja has joined #magi [20:56:27] * majka has quit IRC (Quit: -eXtreme- It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere.) [20:56:28] * LUSTMORD has left #magi [20:56:31] hmmm....I believe in Myself......therefore I* believe in God [20:56:42] :) [20:57:09] * silja has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [20:57:10] * ulver has joined #magi [20:57:14] God= yourselv? [20:57:17] * Twiggy has joined #magi [20:57:19] GW: Have you looked up Conversation with God yet? =) [20:57:22] Pablito....yes [20:57:34] Melle....sorry no [20:57:44] Pablito: and everyone else =) [20:57:51] melle....yes [20:58:23] GW thankyou for not getting tierd of our questions [20:58:31] hej sondag [20:58:43] Anymore questions about shamanism folk? [20:58:44] Here, Here !! [20:58:46] there is a Swedish singer who in one in her songs are singing "I´m God, so who are you?" ...lovely text :) [20:58:53] Rauni..... i like sharing [20:58:58] it's really interesting [20:59:03] are we responsebile for our lives or is it something more in a game? [20:59:35] I don´t mean destiny [20:59:40] Pablito.....I think we are responsable...what we dream we become [20:59:51] is it possible to bee "free of the self", of the ego...? [21:00:03] * ulver has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:00:15] GW : is that toltek wisdom [21:00:28] GW: in this book I read the writer described that spirits could parasite on living people. Have you ever seen that? [21:00:28] If we were not responsible we would be like puppets.... [21:00:28] interesting qestion mike [21:00:29] Do the canadian shaman yuse any tools when they work with healing ore only working with the hands? [21:00:37] * Bure has joined #magi [21:00:45] Kitano....hmmm good question...and yes some would say that it is.... [21:00:47] * FayWicca has joined #magi [21:01:01] Hejje [21:01:26] * AW|halv has left #magi [21:01:30] * Aftonfe_away is now known as Aftonfe [21:01:41] Delvoriah....yes......and yes.....sickness comes in many guises [21:01:56] Do you need much energy when you are healing gw? [21:02:56] * Falck has joined #magi [21:03:04] Pablito.....its good to have it, but really its not 'your' energy you use, one is just the rod of god, if ya get my drift [21:03:22] * esrange is now known as esrange|borta [21:03:27] GW have you vritten any book? [21:03:31] i think a lot about the ego, would be nice to know what you say about it, gw [21:03:44] I understand but how you get it? [21:04:05] Rauni......no.... [21:04:31] Mike....the ego..... [21:04:34] When you do I will read the book. ( : [21:04:55] Rauni...thank you.....i just do little poerty [21:05:04] =) [21:05:05] yes it seems to be in the way pretty much of hte time? [21:05:17] Rauni: he has written many nice poems. [21:05:27] mike....yes....no one can get in my way like myself....lol [21:05:35] GW: I've got to ask you, you keep using the word 'God' is that in the omnipresence (God/Goddess) or a singular presence as Universall spirit. From a Shamanistik point of view I mean? [21:05:37] Typical for a shaman doing some poerty [21:05:55] =D [21:06:05] Mariposa where can i find them? [21:06:05] * Jenkan_86 has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:06:17] GW is tensegrity a good way of 'getting' power ? [21:06:31] Darvid...God the Universeal energy [21:06:37] ok [21:06:49] Rauni: you can't! [21:06:51] God is a Male energy [21:07:04] God is all energy [21:07:17] Bulshit faywicca [21:07:26] Why Not? ) : Mariposa? [21:07:37] GW: as I see it you bring the sickness on to your self (as a god that create it´s own life). How do you see it? Does, for example, these parasites hang on to the people without permission, or have the person agreed with it in some higher state? (if you understand what I mean) [21:07:37] is god egoenergy? =D [21:07:49] i see the light as god and the darkness as the godess [21:07:53] * Santos-BBL has joined #magi [21:08:02] universum has a female character [21:08:06] Del...good question..... [21:08:09] Yes, but half Female And Male. The Goddess is the Female Energy in the God And The God is the Male energy in the Goddess [21:08:32] * Ese has joined #magi [21:08:36] thats a point that is always being asked..... [21:08:50] * Rauni has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:09:03] hej Darvid , Mariposa [21:09:06] i wonder if it just depends on what your 'journey' is...thats to Del [21:09:23] FayWicca: Together they make the Universall Spirit [21:09:28] Hello Falc Nice to see you!k :-) [21:09:35] * madam_mim has joined #magi [21:09:36] its nice to see you to [21:09:37] :D [21:09:38] is it true that women is better wariors [21:09:46] hi Falck [21:09:50] * Santos-BBL is now known as Santos [21:10:00] Yes, but I believe in Goddess and Gods [21:10:00] * Rauni has joined #magi [21:10:09] I believe that we agree to "our" parasites... [21:10:09] * Ese has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:10:15] Pablito.....ever been chased by an Elder Woman with a big stick??.....lo [21:10:24] he he [21:10:33] no :-) [21:10:34] * madex has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:10:36] ( : [21:10:45] * LC|ropa_so_kommer_jag is now known as LC [21:10:57] FayWicca: So do I, as a Druid, but its still a univeral Spirit that exists in every thing :-) [21:11:02] GW: so... I don´t know if I understand... Do you mean that some of us have less control over our lifes? [21:11:12] Yes It is Darvid [21:11:32] :-) [21:11:44] Del.....its the age old question...... [21:11:46] Every stone and tree mm have both of that energys [21:11:57] Every :) [21:12:04] is it true tha our ego acumulating most of our energy? [21:12:10] true [21:12:44] FayWicca: yes of course, some of my best friends are stones :-D [21:12:47] GW do you want to share some of your poems for us ? Please? ( : [21:12:51] GW: well, I´m in that age right now ;) But, what do you think about it? [21:12:51] Pablito......the knowlegde....yes...but there is a difference between knowledge and wisdom [21:12:57] Mine too :) [21:13:08] Darvid: Mine too [21:13:43] Del.....do 'we' lose control, just to find it??...you tell me... [21:13:45] Darvid: oh! I like those large stones witch lots of...hm... mossa... on them... they are really nice :) [21:13:51] I don´t think so Gw [21:14:02] Megaliths [21:14:26] Pablito...you dont thing theres a diff between knowlegde and wisdom? [21:14:51] We have to practise knowledge to find wisdom, am i right? [21:15:18] Whats is wisdom if not knowledge which you use on right way [21:15:34] Knowledge comes from without....wisdom comes from within [21:15:35] * Entor has joined #magi [21:15:40] I think wisdom is when we truly understand the knowledge in our hearts [21:15:50] GW: Do you think the "journey" thrue life is in some way guided or dosít just have meaning.F Q [21:15:53] I agree melle [21:16:11] FayWicca: if you were to ask GW I think he would also agree with us about the energies within stones, trees etc. His use of the word 'God' is a general word for the universal spirit, it is not meant to be male or female bound :-) [21:16:15] Mariposa :jag behöver fråga dig en sak [21:16:25] GW: but... in a way. If I´m god, woh can i lose control? It´s more like your consiousness lose the control, but never the highest aspect of you [21:16:32] Darvid...yep ;o) [21:16:53] kan alla se nu? [21:16:59] Alla kan se [21:17:00] Del....yeppers.....kinda makes one wonder just what the hell we're doing eh?? [21:17:04] se vad? [21:17:19] * smurf has quit IRC (Quit: ) [21:17:21] ( : [21:17:33] väldigt roligt [21:17:33] GW: *lol* having a kit of fun, don´t you think? ;) [21:17:46] Del...hopefully...... [21:17:49] english everyone please! :) [21:18:19] jag vet inte hur man GÖR [21:18:19] so the ego is just consuming our energy, does nothing good.. hehe [21:18:29] hjälp [21:18:31] mike...sure it does.... [21:18:39] ok? [21:18:57] GW: I heard one of your poems in your last show... It was very beutiful! Like to share one with us here? [21:19:05] Have you some ego left Gw? :-) [21:19:24] höhö [21:19:30] Please GW share....poems... [21:19:32] Del....i think it'd be to long....for in here [21:19:45] Well I have to go...thank you for your answers, GW! [21:19:49] Pablito...sure..... [21:20:03] * Nettie has quit IRC (Quit: [CGI:IRC 0.3.4] [EOF]) [21:20:09]